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BRIEFOctober 3, 2024

Cloud and Data Infrastructure Q&A: Insights from Global Experts in Emerging Markets

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On May 23, 2024, the World Bank and the IFC hosted an event to launch their flagship report on Advancing Cloud and Data Infrastructure Markets in Low- and Middle-Income Countries. The event explored the opportunities, challenges, and business environment constraints surrounding cloud and data infrastructure in emerging markets. Two key experts led the discussion: Minister Raúl Pérez Reyes Espejo, Peru's Minister of Transport and Communications, and Marcos Peigo, CEO of Scala Data Centers.

Minister Raúl Pérez Reyes Espejo, appointed in March 2024, is the Minister of Transport and Communications for Peru. He has a distinguished career in both the public and private sectors, having served as Vice Minister of Energy and held senior positions at regulatory bodies for energy and telecommunications, including Osinergmin and Osiptel.

Marcos Peigo is the CEO and Board Member of Scala Data Centers, the leading platform for sustainable hyperscale data centers in Latin America. With a robust background in the tech industry, he has held various senior roles, including Vice President of Value Creation at IBM Latin America, and is also an Operating Partner at DigitalBridge.

The following Q&A summarizes the key highlights and takeaways from their insightful discussion:

Q1: Marcos, in your view, why is cloud infrastructure so important for developing countries?

A1: Thank you for the opportunity to discuss this important topic. It's impossible to consider that any significant development in a country can occur without the support of digital infrastructure. When you think about the biggest challenges facing developing countries, such as education, healthcare, and access to public services, it's clear that digital infrastructure is essential for delivering these services more effectively.

Cloud infrastructure plays a critical role, not just by providing access to smarter services at a lower cost but also by ensuring equal access to these services for the entire population. For some countries, the cloud infrastructure will generate revenue and income, but for most, it will generate progress, which is even more important than the business aspect.

When we started Scala, we identified significant inequalities in cloud infrastructure in Latin America. For instance, Latin America had eight times fewer cloud on-ramps than Europe and 20 times fewer than North America. We saw this as an opportunity to develop a data center company that could help bridge this gap. We also focused on improving power efficiency and addressing issues like currency volatility and data sovereignty, which are crucial for sustainable development.

In essence, the question is whether demand will drive infrastructure development or vice versa. We decided to take the first step in Brazil and create a Latin American platform. Our initial business plan projected 70 MW of capacity by the end of 2028, but we've already reached 160 MW in just three and a half years. Now, with the AI revolution, we project 800 MW by 2028, which will require an additional $5 billion investment on top of the $2 billion already committed.

When we think about the internet and the benefits that connectivity has brought us over the past 20 years, we should think similarly about the cloud and AI.
Marcos Peigo
CEO, Scala Data Centers

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Q2: Minister Perez, we were impressed by the projected growth of Peru's public cloud market, which is expected to reach $1 billion this year and continue growing at a double-digit rate until 2028. How is Peru attracting this scale of investment, and what support does Peru or other developing countries need from development partners like the IFC and the World Bank?

A2: Peru is actively working to expand its data and cloud infrastructure market, driven by the adoption of digital technologies and cloud-based services in various sectors. This growth is supported by the implementation of 5G networks, AI, the Internet of Things, and big data, as well as digital transformation in general.

To sustain and accelerate this growth, support from development partners is crucial, especially in terms of technology investment and capacity building. Stakeholders can help improve existing infrastructure, develop new data center capabilities, and implement regulations that facilitate investment and operation of cloud services. International collaboration and the exchange of technical knowledge are essential to strengthen the local market.

Peru's government has launched a national digital transformation policy to promote digitalization across economic and social sectors. This policy includes regulatory frameworks to increase trust in cloud services and data infrastructure, with a focus on personal data protection and cybersecurity.

Q3: Minister Perez, how is Peru considering the potential for regional integration of cloud and data markets in Latin America, especially given that low- and middle-income countries currently account for only 25% of global data center capacity?

A3: The key factors driving the growth of the cloud infrastructure services market include cost reduction, scalability, flexibility, and security. These services enable rapid development and execution of applications and processes. Regional integration is seen as a fundamental strategy to attract investment and improve technological capacity across Latin America.

For example, the South Pacific submarine cable, implemented in 2021, connected Peru with other countries in the region, improving connectivity and capacity. However, challenges such as regulatory diversity between countries, the need for significant investment, and concerns about data sovereignty and security must be addressed.

Overcoming these obstacles requires coordinated efforts to establish standards, encourage cross-border investment, and ensure effective data protection policies. Peru, like other developing countries in Latin America, views regional integration as a strategy to attract investment and address challenges related to limited data center capacity.

ShapeQ4: Marcos, what incentives could encourage smaller markets to consider regional data centers, or would they still prefer to attract individual investors like yourself despite data sovereignty concerns?

A4: That's a very good question. When we think about the internet and the benefits that connectivity has brought us over the past 20 years, we should think similarly about the cloud and AI. Connectivity depends on the level of connectivity a country can provide. When it comes to the cloud, it's all about latency—the time it takes for data to travel and return. Unless you can change the speed of light or wave propagation, you need to be closer to where the data is captured and consumed.

The size of the cloud market for each country is connected to its development level in other dimensions, such as financial systems, government services, and retail. I don't see a small country becoming a major player in the data center landscape if it doesn't have a strong economy. But AI could change this dynamic by enabling new business models and applications, similar to how Africa leapfrogged to 3G telecommunications. Investments in education and professional training will be crucial to drive economies forward.

When it comes to infrastructure, AI can be split into training and inference. Training requires significant data processing, which can be done anywhere with ample power and infrastructure. Inference, which uses smaller data sets, needs to be close to where data is accessed. This presents an opportunity for countries like Brazil and Chile to become global hubs for AI training, leveraging their existing power grid and infrastructure.

Q5: Marcos, you mentioned that sustainability is a must-have rather than a nice-to-have for your company. How do you ensure your data centers remain sustainable, and are there any regulatory barriers that you face in this effort?

A5: For us, sustainability is not just a strategy; it's a commitment. For example, in Mexico, we could have at least 100 MW of capacity, but we currently have only five because we couldn't rely on the grid's renewable energy sources. So, we decided not to expand there and instead focused on Chile.

We only build data centers that can be sustainable, meaning zero water usage and 100% renewable energy. Scala was the first data center company in Latin America to operate with 100% renewables from day one, and the first in the Americas to achieve carbon neutrality certification. By setting this new standard, we've forced the market to follow our lead, even though renewable energy is currently more expensive.

The good news is that major companies like Microsoft, Amazon, Oracle, and Google also prioritize sustainability, which drives the entire industry to adopt these practices. However, as the demand for AI grows, the challenge will be maintaining these sustainability standards, especially when energy becomes scarce.

The industry needs to invest in renewables, improve the grid, and develop more efficient battery technologies. We must also consider alternative energy sources, such as nuclear power, to ensure that the growth of data centers is sustainable. If we don't address the infrastructure challenges now, we risk losing five to seven critical years of progress in sustainability.

Q6: Minister Perez, how does Peru plan to integrate its national infrastructure with the broader Latin American region to enhance data transmission and connectivity?

A6: Peru has a national fiber optic network that interconnects 108 provinces through 13,000 km of fiber optics and 3,322 points of presence across the country. Additionally, regional projects have increased the deployment of fiber optics by 27,500 km, totaling around 45,000 km. This infrastructure allows high-speed data transmission and positions Peru to integrate its networks with the broader Latin American region.

However, regional integration will require significant investment in the construction and improvement of telecommunications and data center infrastructure. Countries must be willing to collaborate on joint infrastructure projects and create incentives to attract private investment. The goal is to harmonize policies and regulations related to data infrastructure and the cloud, which will involve overcoming differences in regulatory frameworks, data protection regulations, and cybersecurity across the region.

Group photo for cloud computing report launch

(Left to rightt): Marcos Peigo, CEO and Co-Founder, Scala Data Centers, Brazil; Guangzhe Chen, Vice President for Infrastructure, The World Bank; Christine Zhenwei Qiang, Director, Digital Development, The World Bank; Mohamed Gouled, Vice President for Industries, IFC